Jeffrey Varnado

Former Ebay Sellers vs. Ebay, Inc.
2014-12-14 05:09:44 (UTC)

Insider 3 New

December 28, 2013 8:49 pm
Post any links, articles, comments on Former Ebay Sellers group regarding ebay that you'd like. Happy New Year, Rich Vernadeau
June 7th, 12:43pm
See that this gets spread far and wide: PETITION CALLING FOR FIRING OF CEO JOHN DONAHOE FROM EBAY: http://www.petitiononline.com/petitions/jdonohoe/signatures?page=34
Petition Online
www.petitiononline.com
Thanx in advance! RICH

You can also post this anywhere humanly possible, LOL:
You might put a disclaimer above it along the lines of "Near Future News Broadcast?" or some such...
June 16th, 8:55pm
Got a small mission for you, LOL. Go into this thread on Seller Central: http://community.ebay.com/t5/Seller-Central/And-Ebay-is-worried-about-my-performance/td-p/21531700/page/4
And Ebay is worried about my performance? - Page 4 - The eBay Community
community.ebay.com
I'm still banned, so I cannot post there. When you get there, please post the following: "Stock market operates on greed and fear and those are both GUT emotions. I'll take my gut feeling over number-crunchers and bean counters any day of the week."
Thanx as always! RICH

And Ebay is worried about my performance? - Page 4 - The eBay Community
community.ebay.com
We have found that stirring up the fools at Seller Central sometimes ends up in new members over here, LOL!
In that very same thread somebody referred to this group as "that bunch of dissenters" or some such
June 17th, 4:55pm

I had the presence of mind to do screen shots of TRU feedback being scrubbed during their crash and burn Thanksgiving entry on eBay.

Also caught GSI account managers making low dollar purchases and posting immediate glowing positive feedback in an attempt to counter the tidal wave of red doughnuts that were coming in.

Also nailed two regular apologist eBay boardies doing the same thing and called them out on it.

John Osborne AKA z50com is still one of the hardcore eBay apologists and I nailed him for buying a $2.99 pack of baby wipes from TRU on Thanksgiving day and posting immediate feedback on how fast they were delivered,

They're on an older PC's hard drive that is no longer in use. Perhaps I can dig them out and shut up a few of those eBay discussion board
sonderkommandos..
That would be great!
Whenever possible, mention in one of the ebay discussion board threads how well "gideon's FB group is doing", how we keep growing and growing, how contacts are being made with govt. officials and investigat8ve journalists, etc.
whatever response that it gets is irrelevant actually, the rattling of the apologists' cages and the planting of a seed for like-minded posters to migrate over here is the point being made...

The most damning evidence was negatives just vanishing...Poof! with nothing in the feedback revision total even indicated they were ever there.
Bring that up again as well, make reference to the incidents you detailed earlier...
Would like to post some of what you have said in this PM in various places with the attribution "Information from another Former Ebay Insider" or some such...if that's ok by you.

Sorry, cannot do it myself. I was high on the Lithium enemy hit list.
You should who I am.
We supported each others posts and I was always haunting old Jake and the other chronic offenders.
You could be whartondoc or kaykeecorps perhaps...LOL???
Wonder whatever happened to Mr. Elmwood. What a shill and disnformationist

Perhaps. :o)
Most of those canuck boardies were chronic PITAs and I enjoyed harassing him and the other junk car part sellers very much.
Indeed,

You might remember me through my precise manner of writing.

I could work Jake into a homicidal rage with breaking a sweat.
Give me time and I will put the nickname to you...but yes, I remember you and know who you are...thanx then and of course thanx NOW.

You are very welcome.
the initials GM come to mind, there were about 5 or 6 who actively supported my posts and took up for me, you more so than many others
did I sometimes PM you also?

I tried to assist everyone I could and thoroughly enjoyed taking on the eBay is all things bright and beautiful crowd.

Yes you did. I once advised you to vacate a thread that had taken a Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterparteiturn turn.
Oh yes...I recall that

Take it easy, Rich.
Doc
you usually detailed paragraphs and I think you appear in a lot ofthe same threads I was in during the August-November period?
Oh okay- I guessed it early on didn't I?

Yes to both questions.
I liked your icon that reminded me of Mr. Penaut slightly
Mr. Peanut, LOL
I think you may have posted a few train wreck and shipwrecks photos too

Actually it was a skull wearing a monocle with a cigarette holder in its mouth.
Specially selected to prove irritating to some people.
Yes, I enjoyed using pictures and videos.

I really enjoyed posting the organ grinder and monkey videos to Jake's apologetics.
What's your assessment of Topix Forums? I've beeen urging many to also post their criticisms of eBay's illegal actions in posts and threads in the Topix Forums of various cities. Are you familiar with these and do you use them? I think they are underexploited by group members here and could greatly boraden our reach. Almost everytime I post a blurb in some city on Topix Forum inviting people to the groups here, I pick up 3-4 new members within 24 hours. Many have mentioned seeing it and that it brought them here, so I know they work...

I think Topix is a deadend. I am a prolific poster on financial and newspaper boards.
Great! Do you seek my frequent Seeker137 posts on Seeking Alpha? I also post comments after financial articles that use Disqus as well...

Obviously, your experience is better than mine on that board.
My take on Topix Forum is that if 5 or 6 of us would hit 5 different cities a night we could have an impact. In a moment I wil pst one that I did...
Here's one: http://www.topix.com/forum/austin/THIUSPLCJQK7SLO09

Ebay Guardrail, Ebay Quick Decline, Purge of 15,000 Sellers
www.topix.com

Yes, I laughed when that Bozo wrote to you not to call him a sucker.
And the guys that accuse you of shorting a certain stock.
Feel free to post in it, share it, etc.
I ahve about 50 different threads on on Topix Forums in as many different cities (Baton Rouge, St. Louis, Cleveland, Tampa, Pittsburgh, etc., etc.
Yes, I am amused by the reponses on Seeking Alpha

I will.
How about deleting my incriminatory confession posts.
Capiche?
Of course, LOL...

Heading to your Topix threads.
Take care.

I have tried to give the secret recognition sign on eCommercebytes and elsewhere.
...sorry if I did not recognize you everywhere. I will start looking more carefully for cryptic clues, LOL

I'll try to be less obtuse.
http://www.topix.com/forum/san-jose/TPDRLE15GKT55CHRU

Petition: Over 2,300 Call For Ebay CEO John Donahoe's Resignation
www.topix.com
Another Topix Thread...

Thanks and TIA for the deletions.
YVW, my favorite Topix Forum thread I started is the Washington DC one. BRB with that link...
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/washington-dc/THI3I7RAGOJ6CO32T

Should A Senate Committee Launch A Full Scale Investigation Into Ebay?
www.topix.com
Spread my phrase "Ebaygate..coming soon" whenever and wherever you get a chance and feel that it is appropriate

Heck, I'm always "polite" on discussion boards. The epitome of decorum. ^o^
Will do on EBGate.
I'm a firm believer if enough people spread an idea around, it takes on a life of its own. Sort of goes "viral" as they like to say these days...
June 18th, 8:47am
Thought you'd enjoy this:

June 19th, 12:19pm

Share this around. THANX, RICH
June 20th, 1:27pm
One reason I encourage everyone in these groups to spread as much of this around as far and as wide as they can is because I really think that satire- done well- can be scathing, revealing, and ultimately highly effective in bringing a company to task for its misdeeds.
June 22nd, 11:48am
If you still have a friend or acquaintence who post on the eBay boards, now would be a great time to have them go into that thread and say something like "where' gideon when we need him"...LOL. Stir things up even more...
June 23rd, 1:00pm
Keep posting vignettes you learned like that rule of 100. They will spark memories of things my Dad taught me, etc. and help engage the group and also create more material that may be helpful in some of the comments I make after financial articles, etc. Thanx as always!

You're welcome, Rich.
June 23rd, 7:22pm

You inspired it, LOL...
June 23rd, 8:29pm
Jeanne- God bless her- thinks that my version is "tacky" (she posted).
June 25th, 7:52pm
Here's my latest that I'm posting in comments after financial articles about ebay stock: "In reality, eBay is losing thousands upon thousands of good, decent small mom and pop sellers by its flawed policies which eliminate small sellers. Secondly, it's COH (Cash on Hand) is largely created by slapping 21-day holds (illegal in most states, by the way) on thousands upon thousands of sellers' PayPal funds. Icahn correctly recognized that eBay is being propped up by PayPal. Wise investors should look at how eBay stock has languished for 52 weeks and not expect "the worst corporate governance I have ever seen" (as Icahn put it) to suddenly pull a magic rabbit out of the hat that will cause ebay stock to start going up. If anything, it will stay about the same for the next 52 weeks or even drop considerably more."
July 4th, 7:00pm
Iva, sign this, then spreda it around for others to sign. THANX, RICH: https://www.causes.com/campaigns/72001-stop-ebays-illegal-business-practices?conversion_request_id=68879561&recruiter_id=188471327&utm_campaign=share&utm_content=campaign&utm_medium=wall&utm_source=fb

STOP EBAY'S ILLEGAL BUSINESS PRACTICES
www.causes.com
July 14th, 10:30am

Hi Rich,

Just a heads up to let you know that someone has posted a disparaging comment about you and a link they say is a photograph of you - http://bit.ly/1m67Kbt on rateebay.com - Take care, Edward
bit.ly
bit.ly
July 14th, 11:35am
Not me, not a good picture, and do not want people thinking that's me, so i left a few comments/ratings using various nicknames to push that on further down. Would appreciate you going in there and leaving a few ratings to further push it down. Thanx for making me aware of this...
July 14th, 6:57pm

You are welcome, Rich. I drop in there every so often to make a comment and I will do what I can to push it down and off the page.
Well, please do. I went in and did a bunch of posts myself earlier to push it down, but that idiot is back already and posted again, so I reported them (don;t know if it will do any good, don;t now how that site works)

I know they take down inappropriate posts but they're mainly obscene. I would lay 10 to 1 odds the poster is one of those eBay board trolls. Again, I'll see what I can do, old boy.
thanx
July 16th, 7:14pm
This one might be a little too risque for the group, but I knew you'd get a chuckle out of it: "Phong Lee and THX went to a nearby club. There was good music and girls dancing on poles. They ordered drinks from the bartender, "We get a lot of Customer Service reps stripping here every night. Their day job doesn't pay that well," he told them, "They can speak English well enough to show you guys a good time though." Phong Lee's eyes lit up, as did THX's. A girl walked over to THX, "Hey stud, my nickname is Ebabe. I'll make you forget all about your low DSRs."

If you have a link to the original post or conversation, put it up. Any embarrassment to those people deserves net time.
Very true, and I will...

10-4

The KKK one is a real keeper. If it was put up on the eBay boards it would simply disappear with a denial by the choir.
No doubt.
July 17th, 9:01am

Hi Rich. I see Diane Gracely has an agenda to pimp for eBay on your board.
We will see how she responds to my request to promote this group on her blog. If she doesn't, I'll take the necessary actions.
See my strongly worded message (all caps) that I just now left in her "Work with Diane" thread

10-4 Some of the other members might make her uncomfortable enough to leave but that would be a bad strategy. Se would likely drag the bad mouth about her treatment on your sitet all over the Internet.
Well, depending on what kind of "presence" she presents (i.e. how she conducts herself) I will make the decision ultimately whether or not she stays or whether to ban her. I prefer to ban only as a last resort.

BTW - I have seen no rabid presence of Philip Cohen on this board. I can't imagine he would miss an opportunity to proselytize about shilling/PayPal on a new site. Is it safe to assume he has already been here and given the boot?
Yes, but he left of his on accord some months back because many in the group weren't interest in his monotonous tirade about shill bidding. I personally like the guy, we're still friends, and he and I have stayed in occassional contact and he still posts all over the net (many of the same places that i do) but his perspective is entirely that of a buyer (he's never been a seller) and he is obsessed with the shill bidding issue.

Ahhh, I see. Philip is a prima donna, but ain't we all? lol
I fear that none of us on our worst day hold a candle to the likes of Donahoe and his cronies.

Some years from now, the sociopathy that permeates their corporate management will be assigned a proper number in the DSM V.
Agreed.
BTW, you're giving me some damn good quote material for my financial posts, LOL, THANX!
July 17th, 2:33pm
Thought you might enjoy this latest exchange in the comments after Seeking Alpha: Seeker137
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Some years from now, the sociopathy that permeates eBay corporate management will be assigned a proper number in the DSM V.
17 Jul, 12:24 PMReply! Report AbuseLike1

Brad Castro
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Dude - how do you think your own obsession with and chronic complaining about EBAY should be categorized in mental health circles?

We get it - you hate EBAY because you feel they screwed you as a small merchant.

Tough love time - EBAY doesn't owe you a living just as GOOG doesn't owe me one as an information-based entrepreneur (I think I've made that point in the past).

I've suffered setbacks myself from GOOG's whims, but the difference is I got over those setbacks and made productive adjustments.

If your business is in the tank, maybe it's YOUR business model that needs to be re-evaluated rather than EBAY's.

And from a practical standpoint, that's the only one you have any control over anyway.

Evolutionary biology teaches us a simple truth - when you suddenly find that your environment has become hostile, you only have three choices: adapt, migrate, or become extinct.

I'm pretty sure that endlessly complaining about John Donahoe's alleged sociopathy doesn't fall into either of the first two categories.

Successful entrepreneurs are persistent without being stubborn. Nietzsche nailed the difference: "Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal."
17 Jul, 02:22 PMReply! Report AbuseLike2

psychological-dividends
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Amen, adapt or be replaced.
17 Jul, 02:58 PMReply! Report AbuseLike1

Seeker137
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Your comment has been published:
@Brad Castro, the issue isn't that any one single small seller has been treated unfairly by eBay. The issue is that it is happening to literally thousands and the means by which eBay is doing it may not be legal, may violate fair trade practices, etc. Hence there are a number of class action (and individual) lawsuits, and a number of social media groups have sprung up AGAINST ebay's malfeasance. This is a movement, not a few disgruntled former ebay sellers complaining. Get used to it.
May or may not post if to the groups, haven't yet decided.
July 17th, 3:36pm

Post it.

I just posted to the same SA thread abour PayPal and the KKK website and included the link to it. Odds are it will get pulled for some violation.
BTW, anything from the groups here that you can post over there on an eBay discussion thread to rattle their cages you know you have my blessing and full support.

Rich, I looked at the Castro guy's profile and he says he's a options trader. If you ever cross swords with him again, ask him what's the strike price on his eBay calls. Article writers are required ti disclose any positions they hold in subject corporations. - Commentators do not have to do this and I would bet the farm that guy is holding call options on eBay or is possibly even long in the stock. Of course it is highly unlikely he would admit the truth if called out on it but I would nearly guarantee he has some sort of financial stake in eBay. Either that or he's wasting his time as a corporate groupie.
I agree. Amusingly, many of the posters in those financials have voiced the opinion that they think I am "short" on eBay

You never can tell, but some of these board BS artists have big expectations/aspirations and a short billfold. Like the Texans say, "Big hat and belt buckle and no cattle."
LOL
Stop! You'll have me doing a picture of Donahoe in a Stetson with a beltbuckel before this night is over, LOL
Maybe with skinny starving cattle representing small sellers and some big huge bulls represnting JC Penney, KMart, Toys R Us

The time is long past to do a serious short on eBay. The price stays relatively stagnant and the opportunity to exercise it a pick up a few bucks never happens then the option expires. You seldom see eBay insiders hold their cheaply acquired or free stock through options. They exercise their option to buy it and sell it simultaneously and get the hell out of Dodge with the cash. Such maneuvers have always struck me as votes of no confidence in their own company. If the execs don't want to hold it, why in the devil would anyone else?

The big hat, no cattle is still a popular maxim in Texas isn't it?
July 17th, 7:12pm
Yes, still a popular maxim.
July 17th, 8:19pm

Hi Rich, I believe the Weatherspool woman is a closet eBayophile.

I enjoyed the photo montage you made.
Well, she does still sell on eBay. She is 68, retired, disabled (dependent upon eBay income), and not exceptionally bright. She's not a shill or a cheerleader, but she's not vehemently anti-ebay either. I have dealt with her for months and she is actually a nice person and gives some good advice. She is already doing webstore and Bonanza but is dependent stil upon eBay. She will be suspended at some point (whether she realizes it or not) and is hanging by a thread (within recent memory she managed to get some negative feedback removed or some such and related the story). She had an ordeal with PayPal trying to grab funds from her bank account and she went and closed that account and opened a new one.
Thanx for inspiring that meme with your remarks earlier, LOL

YVW

How do you do the smiley?
I just type a colon and then a parenthesis and it does it

Gracias :
De nada

There you go

Success!
Yep!

Then you have your small sellers = Culls or USDA Cutters and Canners Grade.
Yes...

Well, mu housekeeper just brought my night Hennesey VS so time to sign off. "Bonus Notches" amigo!
LOL! Enjoy!
July 18th, 10:06am

Rich, my comment with the KKK link left the Castro knowitall guy on Seeking Alpha with his mouth open. He asked how I found that website. I'll let his imagination work on that one.
LOL
Notice I posted it as a Topic on the Topix Forum for Jackson, Mississippi, brb with that link...
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jackson-ms/TDE414GBA5IFHL0CA

Jackson, MS
www.topix.com
You should go in there and make a post to keep the thread alive. I'm thinking of doing it in Selma and Montgomery, Alabama Topix Forum too (bastions of the civil rights movement where it will surely spark an adamant anti-PayPal response)

July 18th, 11:43am
LOL.
July 18th, 3:37pm

Well done.

July 21st, 6:20am
Your recent post about KKK using PayPal made me notice this article: http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2014/07/ku-klux-klan-recruitment?fsrc=nlw|newe|21-07-2014|5356cc2f899249e1ccc69fe4|NA

White night
www.economist.com
May need your help- try to be nice and diplomatic, LOL- with his Fred Corradi character. He's coming across as a shill but I don't want to be hasty, LOL...

Give me the word...
Ok, go for it, he just crossed the line saying that big box stores are held to same standard and do not get their feedback scrubbed. This is in the first group Former Ebay Sellers (not Former Ebay Sellers 2 Open Forum)

10-4
Thanx!
Very first thread at the top, visible posts are the 3 most recent between him and me

Typically, I'm not known for my diplomatic replies.
He posted "eBay Feedback Profile for toysrus"
That's okay, rattle his cage good while I decide whether or not to delete his comments and/or ban him

Let me try and find his comments.
he has obviously drank very deeply from the eBay Koolaid...

Some of these klowns drink it to the dregs,
tell me about it...LOL

Where are this guy's posts?
Are you on FES...I will do a shout-out that will bump it (but it's at top of my page). Look for your name...

Yes, I'm on FES2
I just said "Iva, group, morning coffee shout-out"
You want to be on FES 1 (Former Ebay Sellers)
join it if you haven't already

Do you have a link to it?
Just checked it shows you already a member
okay, yes>>>https://www.facebook.com/groups/formerebaysellers/

I'll be damned if I can see the guy'e remarks, The top of this page shows your purchase reveal story.
It disappeared for a minute, not I see it under Group mission Statement at the top
type- now
Ok, I'm going to go ahead and delete the offensive comments
What are you seeing now?

Wait a minute. I would love to zap the guy but I cannot find his posts.
When I leave the page and go back, the thread is gone...

Under your mission statement, the first post is the, "What You Reveal..." post.
Okay, you have to hit CONTINUE READING (in blue) at the end of the Group Mission paragraph to open up the thread

Got him now.
OK
I already deleted the TOY R US post because it was so misleading, but I can mention it and see if it starts him back up again

OK
I just posted something to see if he responds again.
Your "girding my loins" is there now
I think I should remove it so we don't scare him off just yet before he gets his cage rattled....
what do you think?

Leave it up for a few minutes and let me scope it out.
okay

Rich, I believe the guy has taken a powder. I will check in regularly to see what he posts.
okay, I'll let you know if he shows back up, LOL

10-4
July 21st, 9:54am

Well, the skunk has shown his stripes. I hope you can block this a$$ rag.
Working on it...

That jerk would buy a ticket to a porn theater and complain to the manager there was $rewing on the screen.
If he comes under attack often enough hopefully he will leave of his own accord. Usually when I delete a comment of somebody's, it also gives me the optiojn of removing them as well, but for some reason that's not popping up this morning, so I will have to figure out how to remove him (which may take a little time). On the other hand, maybe he will just leave on his own...

You're the boss man here. Actually, I miss having some eBayophile to flame.
LOL, we could leave the poor fool here for awhile I guess as a punching bag if you want to stay in practice, LOL

Let him stay. That will short stop him from saying you block any poster who's not a "hater,"
Good point.

He must have been screwed by the Geetar Center to mention them as an example.
Yep.
July 21st, 12:31pm

Forest Lawn, huh?

Believe me, I know Forest Lawn. Of course the picture is not FL but it makes a better show.

Improved version, LOL
July 21st, 4:55pm

LOL
July 23rd, 1:31pm

Rich, my heart leapt with joy when I read about the StubHub hack on NBC News. One can only pray the tempo keeps up.
Yes, let's hope so...
July 23rd, 6:58pm

I really despise this company, not for anything they've ever done to me, but for the desolation they have wreaked on some many other people. Call it my out-of-control corporate social conscience .
I share that same sense of outrage, and I also do not consider myself a hero or crusader, but thousands of people's lives have been impacted...

My father told me that it's not sufficient to win, but someone else must lose.
I would like to think that the avalanche of bad publicity I have had a hand in helping create and promote across the internet the past year hasn't helped ebay any, LOL

To be perfectly honest, my personal negative experiences with eBain have been virtually zero..We are both of the same mind on their outrageous behavior. BTW- I sent the KKK link to Ina and she wrote back to ask how did I know the PayPal link was there. I saw nothing was going to come of it at her end so I told her I found it when I logged in to pay my dues. I have the e-mail address for the columnist at Forbes who excoriated the Pal over knee jerk account freezes and I am going to pass it on to him. I would think the disclosure, although National Enquirer-like, would be long on embarrassing those purportedly PC A-Holes.
Iva, you noticed in placed in Topix Forum for Jackson, Mississippi. If you were to also place it on Topix Forums with known activist black communities (e.g. Oakland, Cal known for Black Panthers, etc.) eventually the right eyes will see it and some black preacher next Sunday will be telling his congregation to stay away for eBay and PayPal...Hell, get Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson's email addresses (even if their subordinates or lieutenants read it, the shit will hit the fan)

Do you have a link to that page?
which one the Topix Forum I did?
Yes, hang on...
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jackson-ms/TDE414GBA5IFHL0CA

Jackson, MS
www.topix.com

Thanks - Below is the KKK link if you wish to spread it around a bit.

http://www.kkkknights.com/

Loyal White Knights - of The Ku Klux Klan Largest Ku Klux Klan Groups in America, For God Race...
www.kkkknights.com
Be glad to...LOL

10-4
July 24th, 2:55pm

http://en.inkei.net/JOHN_DONAHOE

Penis of JOHN DONAHOE - Penis Analyzer
en.inkei.net
July 24th, 8:31pm
My friend Judy posted your pics in Selling eBay discussion board tonight (she started 2 threads). I borrowed her Harvard professor quote and put it here underneath the tombstone, LOL

She's welcome to them. In fact, anyone is welcome to anything I post to advance "The Cause."
That's good to know Iva. I have said the same about all of ym stuff here on the group and encouraged people to cut/copy/paste anything from here to anywhere on the internet they want to put it...

Here's the website I use to generate all those things: http://www.jjchandler.com/tombstone/

Tombstone Generator
www.jjchandler.com
Wow! Kewl! Thanx for the link!
Do you Twitter? I've been hitting Twitter daily with all the bad eBay reports I can find online, LOL

I'm not a fan of Twitter. I believe Twittering and hashtags will prove the ruination of our country.
Have promoted these groups there too and have amassed followers on Twitter as well (some have joined these groups too)
You may be right. For the time being it's a useful tool for me in the online war of ideas against eBay...

I do understand. The utter banality of the nitwits that live and die over Twitter (including that crowd of Kenyans living in the White House) makes my back teeth ache. But, I understand one must go yo where the natives live to capture a Ubangi.
LOL, and now PayPal is in Nigeria- cna you beleive it?
Hang on I'll get you a quote somebody made about that...
Several from Seeking Alpha: nickysg
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Well,that is putting their heads in the fire.
Nigeria,which must contain more crooks per sq km than any other country on earth,is at the centre of world Internet fraud scams in a country where corruption is institutionalised.So I guess those honest Nigerians will need Pay Pal more than anyone,though at the same time the scam merchants abounding in Nigeria will do their best to corrupt and wreck Pay pal's operations there.
23 Jul, 04:01 AMReply! Report Abuse2

leopardtrader
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There fraud everywhere. Nigeria version is not even near as sophisticated as ones from Eastern Europe and Asia. Greedy fools that send money fraudsters to help steal "inheritance" or proceed of corruption deserve no mercy. Paypal business model is not open to exploits even in sophisticated fraud environment in developed countries not to talk about Nigeria.
This is however a pretty big deal for paypal ( Ebay) here consideraing 25% of every black person on earth is a Nigerian and unlike other blacks Nigerians appear to posses pretty higher IQ and thus much more succesful
23 Jul, 04:10 AMReply! Report Abuse3

Investing Doc , Contributor
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I'm not even sure how to respond to your comment, which teems with generalizations about Nigeria, Europe, and black people, which, given your avatar, is very, very difficult to interpret.
23 Jul, 04:26 AMReply! Report AbuseLike0

DeepValueLover
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Goodbye, credibility.
23 Jul, 05:27 AMReply! Report AbuseLike1

Seeker137
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@DeepValueLover, yes, whatever inkling of credibility PayPal enjoyed previously just took a major hit. Can just imagine the scam emails millions of PayPal account holders will be receiving from Nigerian con artists asking them to involve their PayPal or bank accounts in some clandestine money transfer for which they will be generously rewarded...
23 Jul, 08:32 AMReply! Report AbuseLike0

Michael Bryant , Contributor
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Has Nigeria managed to control the killing and kidnapping? Two oil companies already pulled out. I think Nigeria can become very prosperous, but they need to control the fighting. And their government seems corrupt.

Now ground central for Internet scamming can ride roughshod over The Pal. It is like giving some thug the Glock he uses to mug you. Who in the he££ would want to give carte blanc to that country full of criminals. Answer? Donahoe. I hope it costs them hundreds of millions. I've got the entire continent of Africa blocked (except South Africa) and everyone is welcome to my share of the African "wallet."
LOL, yep.


July 25th, 7:39am
Your Schaedenfreude will be working overtime this weekend good buddy: http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2014/07/25/ebay-sued-over-cyber-hack-that-affected-145.html

EBay sued over hack that affected 145 million accounts - Silicon Valley Business Journal
www.bizjournals.com
Isn't it something how anything like this always gets spread all over the news media in numerous outlets? Be a shame if eBay stock value was impacted by all this flap, wouldn't it? Next thing you know a lot of eBay sellers and buyers will be scared to use the site. Wait...that's already happening...
July 25th, 9:45am

Riiiight!

Bad news always travels faster than good news. I wish the ten plagues of Egypt on these people.
Your Schaedenfreude has rubbed off on me, I have to be careful. I've run the gamut from slightly amused to giddy to almost ecstatic and that's on just 2 cups of coffee so far this morning.

Remember, for 100 proof Schaedenfreude someone else should fail.
You got any of the 40 proof Schaedenfreude left?
BRB...

I take an ungodly delight in their troubles and tribulations - Sorry, no lower proof Schaedenfreude in stock today. BTW - I take the same delight in Zuckerberg's fails

My common discussion board reply to Facebook's propaganda releases is, "The Zuck is a Schmuck,"

He may be worth billion, but he'll always be a pencil neck.

billions
What was the law...people rise to their level of incompetency, LOL...
July 25th, 2:35pm

Parkinson's Law.
July 27th, 7:51am
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2336005-ebay-issues-debt-you-could-try-the-marketplace-but-buy-it-now?ifp=0&v=1406375100

eBay Issues Debt - You Could Try The Marketplace, But Buy It Now
seekingalpha.com
Check out the comments. I quoted your "pump and dump" idea and take a look at Brad Castro's comments to me in this thread and my response...
July 27th, 11:42am

It looks like you woke up Fidel again

Your reply to hid retort was a 1
Why thanx you!
I felt good with it .
July 27th, 7:25pm
Check out Jeanne's post on Toys R Us...


LOL!
His name used to be "Brain"
LOL

July 28th, 7:43am
Looks like I may need a little help now with the Brad Castro guy. See our latest exchange in the comments after this article: http://seekingalpha.com/article/2336005-ebay-issues-debt-you-could-try-the-marketplace-but-buy-it-now?ifp=0&v=1406461500

eBay Issues Debt - You Could Try The Marketplace, But Buy It Now
seekingalpha.com
July 28th, 8:48am

I'd say you have Fidel's attention and he's concerned your posts will undercut the the positive info he is spinning to sell his eBay calls.

Don't debate the guy and let him strangle in his own spit.

He writes like a candle stick charter and you will never convince him rotten management and unsavory business practices could adversely effect eBay's technicals, Let him sputter and fume. Smart readers will see through the "I only want to help others" BS and see him peddling an agenda that may be profitable to him Let the guy twist in the wind and the more attacks a differing opinion the more mean spirited and petty he appears to other readers,

One more thing - Appealing to the plight of aggrieved sellers won't carry any probative value. I would virtually guarantee that he wouldn't be caught dead selling anything on eBay himself. And, likely, would be embarrassed to be caught buying there.
July 28th, 10:31am
It's amazing how stuff gets around...http://www.topix.com/forum/toparts/wall-street/TUND58E22MT9M45F7

Ebay Stock: An Observation On Certain Financial Article Writers
www.topix.com
July 28th, 12:33pm

Amazing...
July 28th, 3:27pm
http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2024186262_ebaymechanicxml.html
eBay to offer auto mechanics’ services
seattletimes.com
Was that you or Mr. Elmwood working on Donahoe's brakes this morning? LOL

i WOULDN'T LET ANY EbAY APPROVED MECHANIC REPAIR A TRICYCLE.

I just found an auto mechanic using ebay! | Corr…
shar.es
LOL...

We should get a lot of mileage out of this car service ridiculousness. - Just when you thought it couldn't get more stupid, eBay once again plumbs the depths of stupid.
July 28th, 7:49pm
Oh, I can just imagine David Lettermen or Jay Leno having a field day with this one...
July 29th, 5:18am
http://sfist.com/2014/07/28/one_woman_blocks_ebay_shuttle_refus.php

One Woman Blocks eBay Shuttle, Refuses To Let It Pass In Pac Heights
sfist.com
Well, at least if the bus ever breaks down we now know where he can get a mechanic, don't we?
July 29th, 8:09am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I85ApzR43jU

Nat King Cole - Smile
www.youtube.com

Snort!
Maybe Donahoe plays this song for the ebay employees...."Smile, though your heart is aching..."
July 30th, 8:53am
FES2 just picked up 10 new members between 2:30 a.m. and 7:30 a.m. this morning!
FES2 has gained 45 new members since Thursday of last week! Combined membership is now 943.

Membership does seem to be expanding. After 20 August, it should really get hot. I wonder how many eBay moles and informants are now members here? There is one attractive female member doing some strange things through the chat system. Sending links for 'images' that lead to a FB log in pge.
Hmmm...keep me posted on any unusual activities, LOL. I do expect a huge burst of new members after Aug. 20 absolutely...

Judy Vincenni - She is either trying to seller her 'favors' and or photos or she trying to phish log in information. I believe she bears checking out.
Okay thanx for that info...

10-4 I just posted a comment to the eBay scamming seller article you just added to the page. I also posted an acerbic comment about the eBay car repair business. Their department of spin put up Devin's BS article on the San Jose Mercury. Noting like a nice slap to them in their own home town, eh?
Tell me about it. Speaking of which, let me send you links to the San Jose Topix Forum eBay threads so you can slam them there as well...BRB
http://www.topix.com/forum/san-jose/TPDRLE15GKT55CHRU

Petition: Over 2,300 Call For Ebay CEO John Donahoe's Resignation
www.topix.com
http://www.topix.com/forum/san-jose/TDT4U26JH5PEVV7F2

Ebay Hack Caused Huge Drop In Sale for Ebay Sellers
www.topix.com
There's more (you'll see them there) on San Jose Topix Forum, LOL...have fun!!!

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26231346/ebay-try-selling-auto-mechanics-services-new-offering
Thanx, I just posted a comment also after that Mercury article. Check it out!

10-4

The "Rev" Jesse Jackson is putting the heat on Silicon Valley for more "Diversity" in tech slots. I sent His Eminence the story about PP and the KKK inc the link.
Great!

I hope it winds up giving ePal a butt full of 'black power.'
Black Panthers used to be headquarted in Oakland, they are nationwide, of course, BRB...
Just Googled this: http://www.cbpm.org/nbpp.html

New Black Panther Party (NBPP) - CBPM
www.cbpm.org

I don't think I ever mentioned it to you, but a member of eBay's BOD and I prepped at the same school. He graduated years later than me but we are brothers of the old school tie. I have wondered how to gain his ear without appearing self serving and smarmy.
Definitely worth pursuing...
I would think that a properly worded letter explaining how many thousands of people are being harmed by eBay's policies and actions would get his attention if you did play the "we are fellow alumnae" card...
July 30th, 1:13pm
Great quote- I just borrowed it and used it after that TV news report in the comments- I changed bird's nest to old Avon bottle, LOL...

You're certainly welcome to it. As to getting Clay's ear, I have got to come up with a way to disguise my personal interest in this. I really wouldn't want any of my former classmates, associates and peers to know about my affiliation with such a crumby a$$ outfit.
I heard that...it would be a bigger embarassment to you- for the RIGHT reasons- than you were saying it would be to that Castro guy for the WRONG reasons...
Came up with an idea. Tell Clay that you free lance on the side as an investigative journalist and you've stumbled on this website that has hundreds of accounts of small sellers being treated illegally and unfairly by eBay...and you want to do a story on it...
July 31st, 9:48am
Help me keep an eye on Rossi Pdp Gold. They keep making pro-eBay remarks and slamming all the other online sites I've noticed. Instead of an all out frontal assault attack, try to draw them out in the open with some probing questions, THANX, RICH
July 31st, 12:03pm

10-4

I just gave him/her a tap on the shoulder so s/he would know someone is watching.
Thanx!

Laura Morales also bears watching.
Agreed.

Leaving a retort for the buffalo's latest eBay pump.
Great!
Make it a good retort.

Done

Well, how do you think I'm handling him?
Well done.
One of the things that Former Ebay Insider taught me- and that I have had to come to grips with- is that if they are actively promoting or taking up for eBay on here i do not need that and I am better off if they leave on their own or if I ban them. Now part of em hates to lose any members, but if they cross a line and then consistently continue to cross it after it has been made clear to them not to do so, then i have no choice.

I don't mind dispatching this vermin, will gladly accept the blame for it, and you can keep your skirts clean. This guy is a casebook example of the apologist trolls that frequent the eBay boards. Weak on arguments and long on name calling and casting aspersions. My polite replies to old Jake were designed to keep my skirts clean with the mods and to make him homicidal. And they never failed.
Former Ebay Insider pointed out that just 3 or 4 like this Rossi character can derail the direction of a group like the shills and cheerleaders back on Seller Central. And God forbid this should ever turn into another Seller Central, LOL...

Rich, if you ban them, it gives them ammunition for dragging there crosses about dissenting opinion being unwelcome by the website's HNIC. If he recounts his interactions here truthfully, all he can say was he was "attacked" by some eBay "hater." As anyone can plainly see, he was never attacked and the only incivilities came from his end of the exchange.
True. I agree with that approach.
We can just "give them enough rope" so to speak, LOL...the sentiment here is sufficiently anti-ebay that they will feel the heat from you, me, and other members quickly enough...
Debra and I have been pleasantly surprised at how well many former Seller Central people have behaved once they got here. It's as if they'r eglad to get away from there and glad to speak their mind freely here. Based on responses to PMs she and I sent, we estmate about 30% of the groups here are former SC posters...

I use an old courtroom tactic with these birds. Ask questions a judge would never overrule and making the witness go postal at the same time to get his all testimony stricken. I really don't mind doing it. A very long time ado I used to date an assistant U.S attorney in the Southern District of New York.
Great tactic. It works.

She told me her boss (Rudolph Giuliani) once referred to me in a staff meeting as, "Darth Vader in a Brooks Brothers suit."
Now that's a good one. Gotta love it. Coming from Giuliani I would take that as a compliment actually

I always was proud of that comparison.
I would be too...

You give me the nod any time and leave the rest up to me.

The buffalo spends a lot of time crying the blues about eBay on this FB forum: EBAY BAD BUYERS LIST. Evidently, all is not peaches and cream in the eBay Emerald City.

With a group membership of 29, perhaps he prefers to be a relatively large fish in an undeniablly small pond.
Could very well be...

Well, time to go stir up some hate and discontent on the eBay boards.
Yes indeed...
C u soon!
July 31st, 4:19pm
You'll find this interesting: http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/07/31/ebay-diversity/13426321/

EBay U.S. work force is heavily white and Asian
www.usatoday.com

Yeah, I read it. I guess that's why Jesse Jackson is pressuring for more Ubangi hires in the tech sector.
LOL
July 31st, 5:49pm

Rich, I posted another JFK story on your urban legend forum. I have hundreds of interesting stories about my professional dealings with well known clients but it would violate ethical canons to disclose them. On the other hand, I also have many interesting stories about well known dead people that aren't encumbered by any ethical concerns like how I came into possession of an eight square piece of leather upholstering from the back seat of the JFK X-100 assassination limousine. Eh?
July 31st, 7:06pm
Will go read the one you posted and look forward to more...
August 1st, 1:02pm

I see the Buffalo didn't get enough yesterday and this afternoon has that benighted Weatherspool woman hanging on his every word. He certainly is a subversive member.

He comes to praise Caesar and not to bury him.
Iva, Karen will listen to you, message Weatherspool and warn her about him. I will do likewise.
Thr problem with his subversion is that he is actively downing other sites and discouraging people from trying other sites. That may actually violate my rules of the group- will go check and see for sure..

I prefer you do the member to member contact. If you wish, I will get in the guy's face again on the board. If he's so damned satisfied with eBay there are plenty of Everything's Peaches and Cream at eBay boards to accommodate his enthusiasm.
Yes, engage him as forcefully as you wish. I will not intervene and I do appreciate it.

10-4 I am going to keep an eye on him in hopes of seeing a post I can really Mau-Mau him.

Rich, I came up with a good retort to use on Fidel if you ever cross swords with him.on Seeking Alpha - eBay stock = 1 Foot on the Accelerator & 1 foot on the Brake. A whole lot of Smoke & No Movement.
Love it. yes, i will use it.
I just Private Messaged Weatherspool and gave her a gentle warning "just between you and me be careful with Rossi". Let's see if she heeds my advice...

Spell out one instead of using 1. I did that to make the message easier to post. I am certainly no fan of the FB chat interface.

It looks like the happy boy has taken a powder.
Good point.

I posted a little photograph that might pique Mr. Happy's interest.
Great!
August 2nd, 7:31am
When you get a chance, Judy could use your hand in the thread "Something Small Sellers Can Look Forward To" over on the Selling board at eBay...I just saw where Mad-Hatter hammered her, calling her "Gidget"...
August 2nd, 8:45am

Rich, I went four pages back on the selling page and could not locate the thread you mentioned. Since eBain threw everything into that single Selling stew it's diffivult to find anything because threads are pushed off the first page very quickly. This was likely the intent all along.
Will post link here...BRB
http://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Something-Small-Sellers-Can-Look-Forward-To/m-p/22296502#U22296502

Something Small Sellers Can Look Forward To
community.ebay.com
At the moment it's on the first page...

Thx - I'll look it over.
August 2nd, 7:08pm
A couple of Judy's threads turned into attacks by the shills on "gid" and these groups here, attempting of course, to say we are powerless and irrelevant over here. She stood her ground rather well I must say. The culprits were catahoulacarry and Mad-hatter of course, with a couple others thrown into the mix. Made for interesting reading to be sure.
I see you writing but nothing's showing up here yet...

catahoulacarry is two faced and untrustworthy. Mad Hatter is a guy and believe the poster named ducks something else is a sock of his (the apologist that used Scrooge McDuck as an avatar. I became involved in client business this afternoon but I'll try to slap these clowns around a bit when I am free. I see the Buffalo is among the missing but I have a little surprise for him if he resurfaces .In re. the judyjudy poster: I thought that might be you. Was I wrong?
Not me. She's an aggressive gal from Chicago, her and little brother recently moved to Baltimore. They joined my groups and Debra's Sales across at abut the same time. Early I she and I did PMs and I gave her carte blanche to copy and paste from the group pages here.
I did tell her to watch what she posts on the group after what you told me the other day (I did not mention you).
And told her be careful what she does in PMs too. She took it well.
Just checked and her Facebook page is no longer up. Not sure what happened.
August 3rd, 8:48am
Check out the latest: http://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/why-are-Sellers-against-other-Sellers-when-it-comes-to-Buyers/m-p/22305278#U22305278

why are Sellers against other Sellers when it comes to Buyers/Unfair practices?
community.ebay.com
August 3rd, 9:48am

Yes, I see. Cat something or other is hard at her usual hatchet job. kaykeecorp, a normally con eBay poster appears to be undergoing some sort of metamorphosis into a pro eBay poster. The tone of his posts have lately undergone a 180 in their messages. In all honesty, I wouldn't trust any poster on the company boards as far as I could throw them. It seems to have degenerated into a solitary action for discontented posters. The problem has alwys been the shills were much better organized than the anti's. They work in concert to Mau Mau dissent and the clueless elements of our side pursue the futile effort of believing they can persuade the opposition to see the error of their ways. The shills are not their to be persuaded to see the light or be convinced that eBay is a unscrupulous corporation. They are there to quell opposing opinion and nothing else. That's why I always dealt with them in a heavy handed manner because the only way to force them into retreating was to treat them like dogs, belittle and bait them. I take no small amount of personal credit for driving many of them off the boards during my posting tenure. And all of them have come skulking back in my absence. But the ass whipping I regularly put on them cme with a price tag.
August 4th, 8:51pm
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=14546

PayPal Tests Mobile Payments Using Your Face For Verification - Now The End Begins
www.nowtheendbegins.com
August 5th, 12:31pm

Speaking of Oscar Wilde, LOL

PayPal Tests Mobile Payments Using Your Face For Verification - Now The End Begins
www.nowtheendbegins.com

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=14546
PayPal Tests Mobile Payments Using Your Face For Verification - Now The End Begins
www.nowtheendbegins.com

PayPal Tests Mobile Payments Using Your Face For Verification - Now The End Begins
www.nowtheendbegins.com


ROFL...good one.

Recognize this face.
Yes who could not recognize it...LOL
August 6th, 8:32am

Rich, I checked my eBay site preferences and found that eBay had ratcheted my bidder/buyer block from 2 unpaid item strikes in 12 months to 5 unpaid item strikes in 12 months What a cheesy a$$ trick to pull. My guess would be that the great white father and his minions in San Jose are doing everything he can to reverse this horrendous STR including surreptitiously trumping sellers deadbeat buyer blocks.
New Defect Rate will hit people on Aug. 20 with stuff that's 11 or 12 months old, about to drop off, and suspend them...

I didn't post this on your board in the spirit of not promoting selling on eBay. But this trick certainly puts their management in a bad light though they would likely explain it away as 'glitch.' I believe it worthy of a mention and warning by you as there are some of your members still selling on the Bay but the decision is entirely yours. Adieu.

Rich, I also read that exchange between you and the guy on the 'banned' research paper by those two California academics. I seriously doubt the veracity of hisstory for two reasons. Every time to aked him a question to explain something he had written he dodged it didn't reply. The two scholars he mentioned have backgrounds in energy and environmental law. None of their published works, either jointly or severally, dealt with this type of research. I have author access to U M I Dissertation Services and its successor corporation. They are the principal publishers and storage receptacles for this type of material and a search of their database turned up no mention of any eBay study or, for that matter, any non-governmental funded research in the last decade.

Even if their research was never placed in general release, Stanford academic review personnel would have required professionally printed and bound copies of the work for their survey.
So is it possible he tossed it out as a red herring of some sort?
Obviously I would LIKE to believe it exists.
August 6th, 11:07am

I really can't speak to the guy's motivation, but academia is not in the business of quashing research projects. Neither of the researchers he named exhibit expertise in the areas concerned. If I ventured a guess, the entire exercise might, and I emphasize might, be to damage your credibility if you go public with it. Someone (credible), somewhere, sometime, needs to go on the record for this to vouchsafe the bona fides on his story. Right now it looks like another conspiracy theory snipe hunt/ghost/X Files story. If you have any additional details that were revealed to you privately, I will be glad to look them over if you wish. But don't call BS on the guy. Keep him on a string and maintain his confidence in the odd event there is some truth to his story. But I would advise you to keep everything to yourself and refrain from going public with anything at this time. If the story is bunk, he's the one who needs to look like a crackpot, not you.

"Obviously I would LIKE to believe it exists." That's understandable. You are building a good member base and reputation at the same time. Just a piece of unsolicited personal advice. Don't blow it by being set on a fool's errand by this guy and wind up looking like some loose cannon monkey to your peers.Don't set yourself up for the "Deep Throat" dark background trolls to ridicule you.

Or not.
I agree. Have no intention of looking for the thing myself. Let others in the group stick their necks out, LOL. If it exists and is found and is legit, great. If not I just sit back and watch. He did PM me some info that I'm sworn to confidentiality on that tends to lend credence to its existence, and I can say this much, for what it may or may not be worth, apparently the authors were "bought off" by an emissary from eBay involved in the supression of it.
LOL

Don't get me wrong. I believe some conspiracies exist. Occam's razor gets rid of the peripheries and. sometimes, that's all that's left. That being said, the tin foil hat ill suits me and I just keep my mouth shut in the company of strangers. Suppression by the authors may explain its non -release, but it doesn't explain it not being printed and bound, If I may be of any help to you in this matter please let me know.
Ok, if you get a chance to drop by Stanford University library (or have a friend near there who could drop by) that may solve the mystery of its actual existence there in the library...

10-4
August 6th, 7:50pm
I used to listen to Roy Masters on the radio. Even had some of his cassette tapes. Some of his stuff is spot on. I had a few issues of his magazine THE ICONOCLAST at one point too

I used to catch him on the radio late at night at my beach house. He came in on the skip from an AM station in Wheeling, WV. He was spot on on some things and disjointed voodoo on others. The trick was telling the two apart.
Tell me about it. I heard him on KOYN out os San Antonio, Texas

There were a few nights old Roy sounded like he was half in the bag
ROFL
I've often wondered how late night talk show people keep themselves entertained or stimulate their idea flow

That gporpc troll on the eBay boards lives in Grant's Pass and I used to rag him about being Roy's bastard son.

I tell you who I really enjoyed listening to late night and that was Art Bell. I visited with him twice at his station in Pahrump, NV when I was in LV consulting for Steve Wynn.
How cool! I have also listened to Art Bell. Still occassionally hear Coast to Coast with George Noory and the other new ones who replaced Art Bell
BTW, Jan Olandese (group member) lives in Las Vegas

He was quite a character and consummate conspiracy theory entertainer. Yes, I know Jan lives in Sin City. A great location for an episcopal priest (or is it priestess? She is a very accomplished lady and interesting to chat with. I just hate to do it on this lame FB chat interface
She's one sharp cookie. has written anumber of articles herself as well.

Rich, keep an eye out for this raghead FB spammer. https://www.facebook.com/hammadi.net?fref=ufi
August 7th, 5:28am
ok I will
August 7th, 9:29am

Greetings Rich, I just posted a little nugget of eBay buyer dissatisfaction over being gaffed for non-existent VAT charges by eBowe. The aggrieved buyer resides in Norway so I included some appropriate musical accompaniment by Edvard Grieg
Hall of the Mountain King was my Favorite Grieg...LOL

August 9th, 5:58pm
Were you present during the past couple of hours I was gone for the excchange between James Lancer and Elizabeth Metz? Sorry I missed it, i understand it was heated (James has since deleted his posts so I cna't read it as it happened).
It was on the other group, FES

Sorry Rich, I didn't see it.
Well, you can stillread Elzabeth's side of it is you care to. It evidently occured about an hour ago (I just got on a few minutes ago). All is well now, James deleted his posts (for whatever reason),a nd I am not taking sides as I knw James and consider him a friend and ardent supporter but I am also quite delighted to have the team from OLA actively recruiting ebay sellers over to OLA.
I'm just sorry I missed it.

I am on FEBS1 right now. Where does the altercation start?
Hang on and I'll find it...
It seems to have started right after the picture of HOOK but before Charles Heenbeul's first post that starts "James I think you are..."
Again, you'll only see Elizabeth's responses and she admits to deleting something (one post I think) too
Charles thinks that James blocked him (and he may have).

I finally found what must be the redacted wreckage of the exchange but there's not enough left of it to tell what was going on. What was the thrust of the disagreement?
I only have fragmented info- apparently James feels the OLA people are taking over the group (I disagree and support their recruitment efforts, they have my blessings), apparently James did not agree with Elizabeth's thesis that eBay is your "partner" in sales (albeit a bad one). Again, the original exchange is missing to the extent that like you, I cannot even begin to take sides. Oh well, whatever it was it looks like it was interesting...

eBay is your business partner alright. The partner who is plundering the till and selling off the loading dock. The high level of distrust that eBay has caused between themselvesand sellers reminds me of joke my fathe told me - Did you hear the one about the two Jews who went into partnership on a jewelry store? They both went blind watching each other.
LOL...
August 11th, 6:35pm
If small sellers have acted out of the anger that has fueled me for a year instead of their FEAR of eBay, things would be much much different and would never have reached this point...
"have" should be "had"
Iva do you Twitter? If so can you please help Susan Lindsey with all of this. I'm trying to do what i can, but I'm spread thin...Lower Internet tax limits leading small eBay sellers to slaughter, Giant retailers would win http://bit.ly/1beWi7O #nonettax #ebay #smallbiz

What If Amazon Opened Its Marketplace to Retail In-Store Inventory?
bit.ly
Harry Reid & other senators that have now accepted again around $50 million want to lay low until after elections & vote mfa in as add on to net neutrality act. We have three months to vote the senators out. Please see my new page & use hootsuite to schedule tweets throughout week (will take 30 minutes to do that once you're familiar with hoodsuite and you can use system for rest of your business. Provided tutorial there: https://www.facebook.com/OpposeInternetTaxesTweets

Rich, matter with MFA is red alert serious. We should get consumers involved in creating local tweets. I now have a regular following on the oPpose page so hope to get others involved. It's not coming from eMainStreet Alliance, Paul, although I see activity from some of the members on the Oppose page. We have to broaden our support base imo. IMO the tweeting is the most important thing we can do at this time. There's no lag time. We can each develop followers (I think I have 7 now).
Exactly...

If you can find several people to help out and schedule tweets using HootSuite, very much appreicate it. It'll take but 20 to 30 minutes a week and they can use the prepared tweets on the Oppose Internet Taxes Tweet page. And share new ones that they create. I can edit them to use bity and make sure they conform to 140 characters and them make them available for others to use. Thanks.
Susan, talk to Frank Asa Rockwell in my FES groups, also Elizabeth Metz...

Rich, could you please talk to them? Right now I'm hammering the anti-Mfa so hard that in combination with sales,working over 120 hours a week. Send me their links, I will invite friendships and do what I can. Give them heads up that I'll be contacting them. Thanks!
OK...no problem.
2 hours ago

Rich, post this to your ebay page and ask everyone to share the living day lights out of it and to attach it tow tweets with #nonettax and #ebay attached to it:
http://www.ecommercebytes.com/cab/abn/y13/m12/i19/s03

What If Amazon Opened Its Marketplace to Retail In-Store Inventory?
www.ecommercebytes.com

eBay is no friend to the smaller seller when it comes to the mfa

Here, let me prepare a tweet: eBay not the small seller's friend when it comes opposing the Internet taxes http://bit.ly/1beWi7O #notnettax #ebay

What If Amazon Opened Its Marketplace to Retail In-Store Inventory?
bit.ly

Another tweet: Congressmen say any lower limits with #internettaxes will disappear, Ebay wants to help giant retailers over #smallbiz http://bit.ly/1beWi7O #nonettax #ebay

What If Amazon Opened Its Marketplace to Retail In-Store Inventory?
bit.ly

eBay aligned w/ giant retailers in passing Internet taxes, lower limits a cover to placate #smallbiz http://bit.ly/1beWi7O #nonettax #ebay

What If Amazon Opened Its Marketplace to Retail In-Store Inventory?
bit.ly

Lower Internet tax limits leading small eBay sellers to slaughter, Giant retailers would win http://bit.ly/1beWi7O #nonettax #ebay #smallbiz

What If Amazon Opened Its Marketplace to Retail In-Store Inventory?
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Rich, use HootSuite to schedule these each day, one per hour beginning at 11:00am. I'll come up with more tweets and article

Can you do this and create account such as @eBayNetTaxFoil ?

Here's another one: Will #smallbiz or giant retail prevail on eBay? Handwriting on wall: http://bit.ly/1beWi7O #nonettax #ebay #ecommerce

What If Amazon Opened Its Marketplace to Retail In-Store Inventory?
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That old gal couldn't take a joke about Donahoe, well, a deletion of her posts was in order...IMO
Let her run back and tell them gideon is running some kind of censorship dictatorship...ROFL, some of them already think I'm some kind of a cult leader, let her go add some fuel to their rapidly dying out fire if she wants...

Jeeze, Rich. Who the hell was that crank? Evidently a Glenn Beck lover. I had two pictures of crying males. The other was a sobbing Jimmy Swaggart and I didn't want to pi$$ any of the religiosos
Understood. And there's always the off chance, however remote, that he and JD frequent the same brothel. Now we wouldn't want the flak from that now would we?

Yeah, she'll probably hot foot it to the eBay boards and denounce you as a Nazi
Wouldn't surprise me a bit...

Both of them jerking off to the same $10 hooker in a sleazy motel room.
Wonder if she takes PayPal?

If the Pal has no problems with the Klan why should they have any with a working gal?
You got that right...
Oh boy- you just gave me another idea- wonder how many "escort" services nationwide take PayPal- now that's yet another great scandal waiting to happen, "Mayflower Madame Accepts PayPal"...

Was she a new member? I was getting ready to light her up when everything went 'poof'.
Wish i had known I would have waited to delete...come to think of it, she may be fairly recent, would have to check...

I'll do a little research on massage parlors that accept the Pal for a handjob w/happy ending
I'll Tweet about it once I have your results...and Topix Forum...etc.
Sleazebay will be their new public image...
Already been posting about the easily available X-rated material on eBay over on the Facebook group "Christians Against Pornography" and in the Springfield, Missouri (headquarters for Pentecostal Churches) Topix Forum
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/baton-rouge-la/TES0M37JQJOPCQPC8

Why Does Ebay Allow Sexually Explicit Adult Material?
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That's the Baton Rouge topix there...

I gave the Klan link to Ina right off the bat and the only thing she wanted to know was how I found it. I told her I was on the site to pay my dues. She never did a damned thing with it. The porno stuff is great material. eBay as the largest pur




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