Salem's Den Journal
2003-02-17 19:06:54 (UTC)

The Meaning of life, again. 1/21/2003

The Meaning of life, again. 1/21/2003
Says norma...

"on a massive scale?" where do we draw the line? are you
saying all life is equally precious? then is it just as
acceptable to kill a human as a carrot? I still think that
by eating one places a higher value on one's own/human life.

i'm inclinded to agree with you that nothing is more
precious than life. but lots of people throughout history
have thought differently, and died for god, country,


princple or what have you. many more have destroyed life for
the same or other, often less high-minded reasons. it's not
such an unreasonable question.

yeah, again, i don't know what I think, I'm just asking
about you.


Says me: ;)

No, it is not acceptable to kill a human as readily as one
would kill a carrot. However, it is not acceptable to kill
all carrots for one person or for all humans. Those people
that die for their faith and believe have generally done so
to (going back to my orignial point) preserve life. Those
that go to holy war do so believing that if they kill all
the infidels, their people will have a better life, god will
love their people more, etcetera, etcetera. I do not condone
this or any form of violence or mass killing. I do not
believe in killing humans. Or sentient beings. As I am now
rereading Speaker for the Dead by Orson Scott Card-- the
sequel to Ender's Game, I will quote a quote from the book...

"Since we are not yet fully comfortable with the idea that
people from the next village are as human as ourselves, it
is presumputous in the extreme to suppose we could ever look
at sociable, tool-making creatures who arose from other
evolutionary paths and see not beasts but brothers, not
rivals but fellow pilgrims journeying to the shrine of

Yet that is what I see, or yearn to see. The difference
between raman and varelse is not in the creature judged, but
in the creature judging. When we declare an alien species to
be raman, it does not mean that [i]they[/i] have passed a
threshold of moral maturity. It means that [i]we[/i] have.

--Demosthenes, Letter to the Framlings"

Excerpt is from Speaker of the Dead by Orson Scott Card that
is a magnificent book...

THe excerpt actually fairly well explains my point. I do not
believe in the killing of humans, or raman, or even varelse.
No, I am not vegetarian, because if I choose to think about
life in such a way that my philosophy makes me vegetarian, I
will convince myself that eating vegetables is wrong too.

Hmmm.... I think I strayed off topic...

More to come later,