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more abortion things!

iluvkillingtrees (8:17:17 PM): sorry... I was thinking a
lot about what you said though... while the video showed
how the embryo developed into a fetus developing into a
baby...
Afipunkgodess (8:17:25 PM): and?
iluvkillingtrees (8:17:32 PM): and when the baby was
born...
Afipunkgodess (8:17:48 PM): and what did you think?
Afipunkgodess (8:17:56 PM): dood, you have to watch an
abortion.
Afipunkgodess (8:17:59 PM): itll scare the fuck outta you
iluvkillingtrees (8:18:42 PM): lol... I understand a lot
of your points and I respect life.. but I still think the
mom deserves control over what grows inside her...
including killing something which is growing inside her...
as sad as that sounds...
iluvkillingtrees (8:19:37 PM): once an embro is a fetus...
it's very sad... that's practically a baby at that point
Afipunkgodess (8:20:55 PM): yeah
iluvkillingtrees (8:20:56 PM): the teach even showed us a
dead fetus inside a glass jar perfectly preserved by
chemicals... and it seemed very sad to look at it... and I
felt that was wrong...
Afipunkgodess (8:21:03 PM): but
Afipunkgodess (8:21:06 PM): killing is killing
Afipunkgodess (8:21:17 PM): wherever it is.
iluvkillingtrees (8:21:19 PM): showcasing life from the
perspective of it being dead seems wrong...
Afipunkgodess (8:21:33 PM): but dood some of the abortions
Afipunkgodess (8:21:36 PM): they chop up the baby
Afipunkgodess (8:21:45 PM): and hack it up and then put it
back together
Afipunkgodess (8:21:51 PM): sometimes they poisen it or
burn it
Afipunkgodess (8:21:52 PM): dood
iluvkillingtrees (8:21:54 PM): that's sad... and horrible
Afipunkgodess (8:21:55 PM): thats so fucked
iluvkillingtrees (8:22:55 PM): abortions are terrible
things... but if that's what a woman wants she deserves
that choice...
iluvkillingtrees (8:23:00 PM): it's her body...
Afipunkgodess (8:23:06 PM): but you said it yourself
Afipunkgodess (8:23:08 PM): its terrible
Afipunkgodess (8:23:11 PM): and its not PART OF HER BODY
iluvkillingtrees (8:23:12 PM): ye...
Afipunkgodess (8:23:15 PM): how is it part of her body
iluvkillingtrees (8:23:17 PM): wars are horrible...
iluvkillingtrees (8:23:25 PM): but there also necessary
sometimes...
Afipunkgodess (8:23:31 PM): yeah but sometimes they can be
PREVENTED
iluvkillingtrees (8:23:42 PM): I don't like wearing a
seatbelt... but I'm forced to by the law...
Afipunkgodess (8:23:56 PM): what does that have anythin to
do with it?
Afipunkgodess (8:24:04 PM): *what does that have to dowith
it?
iluvkillingtrees (8:24:06 PM): the law shouldn't force
people to do things
Afipunkgodess (8:24:16 PM): why not?
Afipunkgodess (8:24:34 PM): are you saying the law
shouldnt enforce punisment on those who steal, rape,
murder?
iluvkillingtrees (8:24:36 PM): *that couldn't ever hurt
anyone but yourself
Afipunkgodess (8:24:41 PM): are you saying that you trust
everyone
Afipunkgodess (8:24:47 PM): with your life?
iluvkillingtrees (8:24:51 PM): ye
iluvkillingtrees (8:24:58 PM): or even a life within you
Afipunkgodess (8:25:09 PM): but why no punishment
iluvkillingtrees (8:25:10 PM): Your body is the only thing
you will ever truly own...
Afipunkgodess (8:25:19 PM): its not your body though
iluvkillingtrees (8:25:24 PM): it's you're realistate...
Afipunkgodess (8:25:24 PM): what about the body inside the
body?
iluvkillingtrees (8:25:26 PM): it's your home
Afipunkgodess (8:25:35 PM): i mean it doesnt seem to own it
Afipunkgodess (8:25:42 PM): if someone else can choose to
take it awaysl.
Afipunkgodess (8:25:43 PM): *away
iluvkillingtrees (8:25:45 PM): lol
iluvkillingtrees (8:26:07 PM): sorry... I didn't mean to
spark your aggressive ness again...
Afipunkgodess (8:26:21 PM): ahhhh im sorry to be aggressive
Afipunkgodess (8:26:23 PM): but realluy
Afipunkgodess (8:26:26 PM): answer me that
iluvkillingtrees (8:26:30 PM): are Cancer Cells alive?
iluvkillingtrees (8:26:34 PM): how about tumors?
Afipunkgodess (8:26:41 PM): are they human beings?
Afipunkgodess (8:27:12 PM): do they have a mind? are they
their own bodies?
iluvkillingtrees (8:27:14 PM): no they aren't but they are
alive
Afipunkgodess (8:27:18 PM): so
iluvkillingtrees (8:27:18 PM): a cell is a cell
Afipunkgodess (8:27:20 PM): grass is alive
Afipunkgodess (8:27:22 PM): no.
iluvkillingtrees (8:27:22 PM): even if it's a bad one
Afipunkgodess (8:27:27 PM): bullshit
Afipunkgodess (8:27:30 PM): a person is a person
Afipunkgodess (8:27:35 PM): a tumor is a tumor
Afipunkgodess (8:27:41 PM): a person is NOT a tumor
iluvkillingtrees (8:28:08 PM): no but a tumor is a
collection of cells and so is a person
Afipunkgodess (8:28:31 PM): so.
iluvkillingtrees (8:28:39 PM): and a fetus isn't a fully
developed person...
Afipunkgodess (8:28:40 PM): are you worth what a tumor is
worth?
Afipunkgodess (8:28:46 PM): yes it is
Afipunkgodess (8:28:53 PM): just because its small doesnt
mean its not developed
iluvkillingtrees (8:29:02 PM): it's underdeveloped...
Afipunkgodess (8:29:05 PM): a tumor isnt a person at all.
they to not correlate
Afipunkgodess (8:29:14 PM): so. your point? it still feels
iluvkillingtrees (8:29:15 PM): if you removed a fetus from
a woman it would die
Afipunkgodess (8:29:18 PM): so.
Afipunkgodess (8:29:26 PM): if you removed a child from
its mother it would die~!
iluvkillingtrees (8:29:26 PM): it's lungs are incomplete...
iluvkillingtrees (8:29:28 PM): it's heart
iluvkillingtrees (8:29:32 PM): it's neverous system
iluvkillingtrees (8:29:54 PM): it takes 14 weeks for a
fetus to develop a skeletal system
Afipunkgodess (8:30:05 PM): if your parents threw you in
the middle of the oceanyou would die.
Afipunkgodess (8:30:16 PM): yeah, by that time some people
dont know their pregnant
Afipunkgodess (8:30:21 PM): its still a person man
iluvkillingtrees (8:30:36 PM): I don't want to argue a
point that abortions are good... cause I don't believe
that...
Afipunkgodess (8:30:51 PM): but why are they okay?
Afipunkgodess (8:30:58 PM): why should something else take
the pain
Afipunkgodess (8:31:00 PM): take the blame
Afipunkgodess (8:31:03 PM): when it is totaly innocent?
iluvkillingtrees (8:31:08 PM): and I don't think their
necessary given proper blah blah
iluvkillingtrees (8:31:11 PM): lol
Afipunkgodess (8:31:13 PM): its not RIGHT to throw away
our problems
Afipunkgodess (8:31:25 PM): to kill them
Afipunkgodess (8:31:33 PM): so not face consequences
iluvkillingtrees (8:31:34 PM): a baby isn't a problem...
Afipunkgodess (8:31:39 PM): oh, its not?
iluvkillingtrees (8:31:41 PM): I don't think that's ever
the case
Afipunkgodess (8:31:44 PM): then why do people have
abortions?
Afipunkgodess (8:31:50 PM): ohhhh wait. its an
INCONVENIENCE
Afipunkgodess (8:31:53 PM): so we kill it
Afipunkgodess (8:32:01 PM): we kill anything were
INCONVENIENCED by?
iluvkillingtrees (8:33:11 PM): because they don't want to
be a mom... and or their ego can't handle the idea of
someone raising their child without them... or the child
having a horrible child hood at the hands of the adoptions
agencys... I think they worry about themselves being
parents and the childs future without them...
Afipunkgodess (8:34:17 PM): that is a problem
Afipunkgodess (8:34:19 PM): isnt it?
Afipunkgodess (8:34:24 PM): tis better to be alive though
iluvkillingtrees (8:34:26 PM): programming by genetics is
only half the picture... you're also a product of
programming from your enviroment... and most of that stuff
is laid in the child hood years...
Afipunkgodess (8:34:32 PM): all of the above were problems!
Afipunkgodess (8:34:42 PM): life is priceless
iluvkillingtrees (8:34:58 PM): life is a puzzle
Afipunkgodess (8:35:05 PM): no one has a live to take it
from anyone else
Afipunkgodess (8:35:21 PM): so if you dont like the
puzzle, are you supposed to rip your neighbors puzzle up?
iluvkillingtrees (8:35:34 PM): no
iluvkillingtrees (8:35:45 PM): I'm not saying that...
iluvkillingtrees (8:35:58 PM): you are not your naighbors
keeper
iluvkillingtrees (8:36:12 PM): you are only truly
responsible for your body...
Afipunkgodess (8:36:29 PM): yes you are
iluvkillingtrees (8:36:33 PM): and I think that can
stretch to what grows within it...
Afipunkgodess (8:36:47 PM): and if youre not then youre
not your neighbors KILLER either
Afipunkgodess (8:36:58 PM): no but its not agrowth
Afipunkgodess (8:37:00 PM): its a child
Afipunkgodess (8:37:01 PM): d
Afipunkgodess (8:37:18 PM): if you dont care about your
neighbor
Afipunkgodess (8:37:21 PM): and you dont believe in god
iluvkillingtrees (8:37:22 PM): I have a diffrent
perspective...
Afipunkgodess (8:37:27 PM): then why live? you die anyways
Afipunkgodess (8:37:35 PM): so ive noticed...
Afipunkgodess (8:38:32 PM): if youre not your brothers
keeper or helper, then what difference do you make
iluvkillingtrees (8:38:33 PM): I'm sorry
Afipunkgodess (8:38:34 PM): what?
iluvkillingtrees (8:39:06 PM): I just am... I respect you
and you're perspective... but I don't fully agree with you
Afipunkgodess (8:39:17 PM): i dont understand you
Afipunkgodess (8:39:25 PM): lol
iluvkillingtrees (8:39:27 PM): lol
Afipunkgodess (8:39:30 PM): the whole thing
Afipunkgodess (8:39:32 PM): boils down to
iluvkillingtrees (8:39:33 PM): that's ok
Afipunkgodess (8:39:37 PM): whether you believe its a
person
Afipunkgodess (8:39:38 PM): or not.
Afipunkgodess (8:39:40 PM): i think
iluvkillingtrees (8:40:21 PM): I have a diffrent idea on
what makes a person... you might be attaching the idea of
a "soul" to that word as well...