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MisterNiceGuy04 (7:17:18 PM): hello
Afipunkgodess (7:17:22 PM): hey
Afipunkgodess (7:17:23 PM): whatsup
Afipunkgodess (7:17:29 PM): sorry i couldnt get you on my
bud list...
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:17:41 PM): not too much. just fiddling
around i guess
Afipunkgodess (7:17:44 PM): lol
Afipunkgodess (7:17:49 PM): wow i feel like im talking to
a teacher
Afipunkgodess (7:17:54 PM): you use punctuation!
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:18:03 PM): hmm... not funny...
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:18:05 PM): ok
Afipunkgodess (7:18:26 PM): sorry, im on like seven or 8
medications so if i say anything bad, please dont take
offense
Afipunkgodess (7:18:30 PM): how was your day?
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:18:53 PM): my day was ok.
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:18:59 PM): 8 medications?
Afipunkgodess (7:19:02 PM): yeah
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:19:03 PM): for what?
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:19:06 PM): the plague?
Afipunkgodess (7:19:11 PM): lol im quite sick
Afipunkgodess (7:19:20 PM): cold a virus and something else
Afipunkgodess (7:19:24 PM): plus allergies and asthma
Afipunkgodess (7:19:34 PM): my dads a doctor and he
doubles dosage sometimes too when i get sick
Afipunkgodess (7:19:42 PM): i feel like im not here
Afipunkgodess (7:19:45 PM): i hate medicine...
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:19:49 PM): colds, viruses, and asthma
oh my!
Afipunkgodess (7:19:55 PM): lol yes!
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:20:04 PM): poor u!
Afipunkgodess (7:20:10 PM): yep...
Afipunkgodess (7:20:16 PM): ah, my friend nikki thinks
youre wise
Afipunkgodess (7:20:21 PM): i showed her part of your note
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:20:26 PM): really?
Afipunkgodess (7:20:27 PM): hopefully youre not mad @ me
for that
Afipunkgodess (7:20:27 PM): yes
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:20:31 PM): ok
Afipunkgodess (7:20:32 PM): i agree with her
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:20:48 PM): i'm glad to be wise.
tralalalala!
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:20:58 PM): ok
Afipunkgodess (7:20:58 PM): lol
Afipunkgodess (7:21:08 PM): its her lifes quest, dont
treat it as a trifle
Afipunkgodess (7:21:11 PM): whatsup with the oks?
Afipunkgodess (7:21:11 PM): brb
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:22:09 PM): ok, i won't treat it as a
trifle. But i'm not all that wise. Schoolyard philosophy
isn't much compared to some of the books out there.
Afipunkgodess (7:22:36 PM): lol
Afipunkgodess (7:22:40 PM): books are what you make of them
Afipunkgodess (7:22:50 PM): as are thoughts
Afipunkgodess (7:22:58 PM): ah but its more than most
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:23:06 PM): i guess. I wish i had more
free time to read books.
Afipunkgodess (7:23:19 PM): same here
Afipunkgodess (7:23:23 PM): i used to read a book a night
Afipunkgodess (7:23:26 PM): no time for that now
Afipunkgodess (7:23:34 PM): none whatsoever
Afipunkgodess (7:23:53 PM): so how is your life?
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:24:22 PM): umm, my life's ok
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:24:26 PM): i think
Afipunkgodess (7:24:58 PM): you think? why think? and why
just ok...? (sorry about the why's i sound like a three
year old)
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:26:34 PM): umm.... i think meaning i'm
not sure. as for why think, becausse it's important to add
the thought process before acting if possible. And ok
because i think my life is OK.
Afipunkgodess (7:27:11 PM): thankyou for explaining
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:27:28 PM): you're welcome
Afipunkgodess (7:27:39 PM): so what do you want to talk
about?
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:28:14 PM): i dunno. 2 of my teachers
are complaning about me sleeping in class.
Afipunkgodess (7:28:19 PM): which ones?
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:28:53 PM): spanish(Mr.Ramirez) and
geometry (Mr.Shih)
Afipunkgodess (7:29:08 PM): does it affect your grade?
Afipunkgodess (7:29:12 PM): the year's almost out...
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:29:30 PM): nope
Afipunkgodess (7:30:29 PM): do you like nolan?
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:30:45 PM): it's good
Afipunkgodess (7:30:52 PM): as far as?
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:31:38 PM): i've gone to private schools
all my life. Plus, I've never been to any other schools
as a freshman. Therefore: school is school.
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:31:46 PM): no ohter way to describe it
Afipunkgodess (7:31:55 PM): but how does it help us
Afipunkgodess (7:31:59 PM): in the long run
Afipunkgodess (7:32:04 PM): one could say that we die
Afipunkgodess (7:32:57 PM): and learning numbers and facts
isnt going to do anything to stop it
Afipunkgodess (7:32:59 PM): ?
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:33:14 PM): ah! yes! we DO die. And when
we live, we have no meaning, and when we die we are
forgotten. (ANd yet there's that time before death that
compells us to make somethign of it.)
Afipunkgodess (7:33:35 PM): make something?
Afipunkgodess (7:33:47 PM): but what i do not understand
is how were making something of it
Afipunkgodess (7:33:48 PM): by memorizing
Afipunkgodess (7:33:50 PM): things
Afipunkgodess (7:34:00 PM): i dont understand
Afipunkgodess (7:34:13 PM): id much rather talk to paul or
you or someone and debate
Afipunkgodess (7:34:43 PM): and to a certian extent i
guess you could say our knoweledge of outside things
affects our opinions/thoughts but you could also argue
against it
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:34:55 PM): some ppl believe that each
moment is important etc. Otheres believe that nothing
matters and it doesn't matter what they do, so they might
as well keel over and die(although they seem to prefer
spreading their views to death)
Afipunkgodess (7:35:14 PM): do you mind if i ask which you
are?
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:35:21 PM): too much to type!
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:35:24 PM): ah!
Afipunkgodess (7:35:24 PM): lol
Afipunkgodess (7:35:30 PM): then speak at lunch!
Afipunkgodess (7:35:35 PM): however much you dislike it!
Afipunkgodess (7:36:48 PM): im sorry
Afipunkgodess (7:36:55 PM): i shouldnt spring things on
you like that
Afipunkgodess (7:37:11 PM): then again i shouldnt do a lot
of things...
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:37:41 PM): i dunno. Life is life and i
prefer existence to nonexistence. esp because of the lack
of religion on my part. Ok. Learning numbers is
necessary to become useful to society and therefore gain a
position where you are able to take advantage to certain
things not available to others and to improve your OUALITY
of life.
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:37:47 PM): learning #
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:37:59 PM): learning numbers is just a
part of your early training
Afipunkgodess (7:38:01 PM): what if i dont want to be
useful to scociety
Afipunkgodess (7:38:07 PM): i dont want to be brainwashed
Afipunkgodess (7:38:08 PM): or conform
Afipunkgodess (7:38:11 PM): i want to find myself
Afipunkgodess (7:38:16 PM): find purpose
Afipunkgodess (7:38:23 PM): if there is such thing
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:38:41 PM): gimme a moment
Afipunkgodess (7:38:43 PM): so you dont believe in
anything?
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:38:45 PM): let me type
Afipunkgodess (7:38:47 PM): ok sure
Afipunkgodess (7:38:48 PM): lol sorry
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:42:35 PM): "useful to society" is
simply a side-effect of being a good person. YOu improvbe
your life with job training and become closer to yourself
through acts of altruism, social aspects of your life, adn
self examination. Being useful to society doesn't mean
being brainwashed. By helping anyone else, you are
helping society, other people. You won't find yourself by
opposing society(other people). You'll end up empty
inside. Plus, you don't have to conform, wear that neon-
pink outfit if you want!
Afipunkgodess (7:43:10 PM): lol conformity is ok
Afipunkgodess (7:43:14 PM): but pressure to i dislike
Afipunkgodess (7:43:30 PM): and the pressure is always
there
Afipunkgodess (7:43:48 PM): and youre expected to follow
always
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:43:52 PM): yep.
Afipunkgodess (7:44:05 PM): but being productive
Afipunkgodess (7:44:15 PM): productive right now in
societies eyes
Afipunkgodess (7:44:26 PM): seems to be producing things
of monitary value
Afipunkgodess (7:44:38 PM): rather than altruism etc..
Afipunkgodess (7:44:47 PM): and obviously monitary things
get you nowhere
Afipunkgodess (7:45:08 PM): otherwise people wouldnt buy
things constantly
Afipunkgodess (7:45:09 PM): etc...
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:45:13 PM): well.. i wouln'dn't say
that.
Afipunkgodess (7:45:17 PM): what would you say?
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:45:29 PM): it could help you survive.
and you can also use it to buy a buss pass
Afipunkgodess (7:45:42 PM): survival
Afipunkgodess (7:46:10 PM): i dont have to work all the
time to survive though
Afipunkgodess (7:46:15 PM): and isnt that what many people
do?
Afipunkgodess (7:46:21 PM): are encouraged to do?
Afipunkgodess (7:47:32 PM): i dont understand it... where
my dad works hes encouraged to work as much as possible
and the people in his group think people who dont work all
the time are "weak"
Afipunkgodess (7:47:36 PM): but what are we working for?
Afipunkgodess (7:47:46 PM): something concrete, to leave
behind?
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:47:47 PM): Well, ppl who work all the
time to survive are of course encouraged to do so, the
other option being death. so, yeah.
Afipunkgodess (7:47:58 PM): no, but its not for survival
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:48:00 PM): you're lucky to not have to
struggle all the time for survival
Afipunkgodess (7:48:05 PM): ah yes
Afipunkgodess (7:48:06 PM): i am
Afipunkgodess (7:48:12 PM): but survival
Afipunkgodess (7:48:16 PM): can be achieved
Afipunkgodess (7:48:18 PM): with the minimum
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:48:36 PM): not for everyone
Afipunkgodess (7:48:44 PM): no
Afipunkgodess (7:48:48 PM): but for many americans
Afipunkgodess (7:48:50 PM): not for everyone
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:48:51 PM): yeah
Afipunkgodess (7:48:57 PM): but are we too concerned with
others?
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:49:02 PM): nope
Afipunkgodess (7:49:06 PM): exactly
Afipunkgodess (7:49:08 PM): so we work
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:49:14 PM): esp not the ppl working in
wall mart's sweat shope
Afipunkgodess (7:49:19 PM): yes
Afipunkgodess (7:49:23 PM): so what are we doing
Afipunkgodess (7:49:23 PM): here
Afipunkgodess (7:49:25 PM): something is wrong
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:49:27 PM): we profit off of the toil of
the pooreer countries
Afipunkgodess (7:49:31 PM): yes
Afipunkgodess (7:49:37 PM): exactly
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:49:54 PM): and yet we can't change
everything without causing starvation and the ruination of
the economy
Afipunkgodess (7:50:00 PM): we have an extrodinary amount
of money as a nation, compared to other countries
Afipunkgodess (7:50:02 PM): but
Afipunkgodess (7:50:06 PM): which is worse
Afipunkgodess (7:50:21 PM): ignoring others and gaining
things we dont need
Afipunkgodess (7:50:34 PM): or helping, and risking loss
of things
Afipunkgodess (7:50:41 PM): which outweighs the other?
Afipunkgodess (7:50:49 PM): which is moral
Afipunkgodess (7:50:53 PM): and yet, which is chosen
Afipunkgodess (7:50:56 PM): which is easier
Afipunkgodess (7:52:15 PM): i dont understand anything
about this life
Afipunkgodess (7:52:25 PM): and thats why i talk to others
Afipunkgodess (7:52:31 PM): to try to gain understanding
Afipunkgodess (7:52:51 PM): so far i havent been doing too
well...
Afipunkgodess (7:52:59 PM): all i can do is argue and
frustrate people
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:53:59 PM): ok. In order, for the
countries which are poor to get un-poor and stop starving
is to industrialise, have a mixed economy, reduce
population, and gain the ability to produce or buy food.
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:54:01 PM): but!
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:54:09 PM): there will always be poor
people
Afipunkgodess (7:54:12 PM): yes
Afipunkgodess (7:54:13 PM): but
Afipunkgodess (7:54:21 PM): there dont have to be so many
Afipunkgodess (7:54:39 PM): and the way to industrialize
would be to have money
Afipunkgodess (7:54:41 PM): which they do not have
Afipunkgodess (7:54:45 PM): theyre in a hole
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:54:54 PM): of course, we don't have
money either
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:55:02 PM): we're 6 trillion or so in
debt
Afipunkgodess (7:55:04 PM): but we have far more than
others
Afipunkgodess (7:55:15 PM): its a number to me
Afipunkgodess (7:55:22 PM): it doesnt hit home very well
Afipunkgodess (7:55:25 PM): i dont identify with it
Afipunkgodess (7:55:35 PM): i identify with what i see,
mostly
Afipunkgodess (7:55:40 PM): but ive seen the poor
Afipunkgodess (7:55:43 PM): and its terrible
Afipunkgodess (7:55:46 PM): how they have to live
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:55:46 PM): and far more DEBT than
others. plus, the rail systemis messed up, the schools
are poor, etc.
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:55:49 PM): yep
Afipunkgodess (7:55:56 PM): ah, but youre forgetting we
have schools
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:56:01 PM): communism won'tt work though
Afipunkgodess (7:56:19 PM): what will
Afipunkgodess (7:56:30 PM): what will
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:56:31 PM): i was just pointing out that
we need to ensure the stability of the country before we
can readily assist others
Afipunkgodess (7:56:37 PM): ah yes
Afipunkgodess (7:56:41 PM): self before others
Afipunkgodess (7:56:51 PM): but there will always be
something holding us back
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:56:53 PM): stop typing
Afipunkgodess (7:57:01 PM): im sorry ... im rabbling
Afipunkgodess (7:57:12 PM): right now ill stop until you
tell me to start again
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:57:17 PM): if our country crashes, the
ENTIRE GLOBAL ECONOMY CRASHES ADN ABILLION OR SO PPL
STARVE TO DEATHE
Afipunkgodess (7:57:43 PM): mmm, im blind
Afipunkgodess (7:57:50 PM): and ignorant
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:58:01 PM): it's a really big problem
Afipunkgodess (7:58:03 PM): terribly sorry
Afipunkgodess (7:58:05 PM): yes it is
MisterNiceGuy04 (7:58:26 PM): and it has to be gradually
fixed. or else
Afipunkgodess (7:58:30 PM): but so many already are
starving... the water will always be too cold or too warm
to jump in
Afipunkgodess (7:58:31 PM): right
Afipunkgodess (7:58:34 PM): right
Afipunkgodess (7:58:53 PM): its a big thing
Afipunkgodess (7:59:19 PM): but how are we, as people
helping? could it be that becoming a "productive member of
society" would help?
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:00:02 PM): and yet, starving ppl in
poor countries will produce lots of children because
children will be necessary as assets to support the
parents during their working life and esp when old and
infirmed. overpopulation caused by the starving ones
would simply add to the problem
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:00:15 PM): so sending food wouldn't
help]
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:00:22 PM): not in the long run'
Afipunkgodess (8:00:23 PM): setting things up
Afipunkgodess (8:00:24 PM): would
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:00:36 PM): yep
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:00:40 PM): but how?
Afipunkgodess (8:01:27 PM): if they had stability, and
real jobs, then constant income, less need for more
children.... "productivity"
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:01:46 PM): yeah, but!
Afipunkgodess (8:01:52 PM): but!?
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:02:19 PM): in oreder for factories to
produce finished goods, they need raw resources. these
resources have to come from somewhere or the economy would
crash.
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:02:29 PM): forget it
Afipunkgodess (8:02:41 PM): so its a big mess
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:02:45 PM): yep
Afipunkgodess (8:02:49 PM): thankyou
Afipunkgodess (8:02:51 PM): im so ignorant
Afipunkgodess (8:02:55 PM): i dont see things sometimes
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:03:14 PM): it's ok
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:03:21 PM): we're all ignorant
Afipunkgodess (8:03:30 PM): but some more than others
Afipunkgodess (8:03:35 PM): for example: me
Afipunkgodess (8:03:37 PM): i dont see things
Afipunkgodess (8:03:48 PM): and i dont know i dont see
them until someone like you points them out
Afipunkgodess (8:05:28 PM): so what is your favorite thing
about people?
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:06:49 PM): yeah, ppl are ignorant to
varying degrees. It's not normal for someone to not know
until someone tells them. like how to use a computer. or
something like that. We all have different skills
dependng on both natural and learned abilities. It's less
what we have than it is that we use our abilities
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:07:39 PM): my favorite thing about ppl?
Afipunkgodess (8:07:41 PM): mhmm i like that
Afipunkgodess (8:07:42 PM): yeah
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:07:45 PM): hmm...
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:08:07 PM): i don't know
Afipunkgodess (8:08:11 PM): lol
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:08:42 PM): thanks for talking to me
Afipunkgodess (8:08:49 PM): i was just going to tell you
that
Afipunkgodess (8:08:53 PM): youve helped me so much today
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:08:54 PM): lol
Afipunkgodess (8:08:54 PM): in talking
Afipunkgodess (8:08:56 PM): lol
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:09:02 PM): ok
Afipunkgodess (8:09:02 PM): i havent gotten this much out
of a conversation
Afipunkgodess (8:09:05 PM): in a very long time
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:09:13 PM): thanks
MisterNiceGuy04 (8:09:17 PM): igtg
Afipunkgodess (8:09:21 PM): okay
Afipunkgodess (8:09:25 PM): ill ttylater
Afipunkgodess (8:09:28 PM): maybe at lunch
Afipunkgodess (8:09:30 PM): if you feel like talking